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Tuesday, September 9, 2008

FIFA Ranking: Regarding Mexico (a reply to Toeball Tyler)

Here's his post: FIFA Rankings are Worthless.

This is the interesting part:

Mexico jumped from 32nd to 24th, over the United States which is currently 28th. So let me get this straight. Since the last World Rankings, Mexico has only played world powerhouse Honduras in Mexico City (and had to come back from behind), and won 2-1.

The United States on the other hand had to play in Guatemala and won 1-0. So how does Mexico jump 8 bloody spots?

He also posted this on BigSoccer:

How about providing some data that proves the jump was properly given instead of just saying I'm wrong. It is easy to point at laugh at my efforts but you are yet to provide a valid point that shows they should have made the jump.

As Solid444 already said, coming back from behind and playing home or away are not taken into account by the FIFA ranking.

Let's look at Mexico's August 2008 point totals:

The columns are as follows: Match date, Opponents' FIFA trigramme, FIFA match points for Mexico

"0.2 time frame"

8-Sep-2004 TRI 646.8
6-Oct-2004 VIN 343.2
10-Oct-2004 VIN 343.2
13-Oct-2004 TRI 646.8
27-Oct-2004 ECU 448.8
10-Nov-2004 GUA 319.44
13-Nov-2004 SKN 699.6
17-Nov-2004 SKN 699.6
26-Jan-2005 SWE 168.26
9-Feb-2005 CRC 1122
23-Feb-2005 COL 173.91
9-Mar-2005 ARG 185.13
27-Mar-2005 USA 1201.2
30-Mar-2005 PAN 259.6
27-Apr-2005 POL 157.92
4-Jun-2005 GUA 891
8-Jun-2005 TRI 712.8
16-Jun-2005 JPN 1292.31
19-Jun-2005 BRA 1683
22-Jun-2005 GRE 547.08
26-Jun-2005 ARG 555.39
29-Jun-2005 GER 0
8-Jul-2005 RSA 0
10-Jul-2005 GUA 982.08
13-Jul-2005 JAM 1164.24
17-Jul-2005 COL 0

"0.3 time frame"

17-Aug-2005 CRC 1102.2
3-Sep-2005 USA 0
7-Sep-2005 PAN 838.2
8-Oct-2005 GUA 871.2
12-Oct-2005 TRI 0
26-Oct-2005 URU 544.17
16-Nov-2005 BUL 0
14-Dec-2005 HUN 344.04
25-Jan-2006 NOR 448.38
15-Feb-2006 KOR 0
1-Mar-2006 GHA 386.655
29-Mar-2006 PAR 513.315
5-May-2006 VEN 375.87
12-May-2006 COD 339.945
27-May-2006 FRA 0
1-Jun-2006 NED 0
11-Jun-2006 IRN 1598.52
16-Jun-2006 ANG 487.86
21-Jun-2006 POR 0
24-Jun-2006 ARG 0

"0.5 time frame"

7-Feb-2007 USA 0
28-Feb-2007 VEN 367.83
25-Mar-2007 PAR 469.395
28-Mar-2007 ECU 483.12
2-Jun-2007 IRN 405.45
5-Jun-2007 PAR 0
8-Jun-2007 CUB 986.85
10-Jun-2007 HON 0
13-Jun-2007 PAN 1132.2
17-Jun-2007 CRC 1178.1
24-Jun-2007 USA 0
27-Jun-2007 BRA 1622.295
1-Jul-2007 ECU 1284.66
4-Jul-2007 CHI 403.515
8-Jul-2007 PAR 1342.305
11-Jul-2007 ARG 0
14-Jul-2007 URU 1399.95

"1.0 time frame"

22-Aug-2007 COL 0
12-Sep-2007 BRA 0
14-Oct-2007 NGA 150.45
17-Oct-2007 GUA 0
6-Feb-2008 USA 153
26-Mar-2008 GHA 471.75
16-Apr-2008 CHN 300.9
4-Jun-2008 ARG 0
8-Jun-2008 PER 373.32
15-Jun-2008 BLZ 318.75
21-Jun-2008 BLZ 318.75


Adding it up:

Year - Points - Matches - Multiplier - Total

-4 15243.36 26 0.2 117.2566
-3 7850.355 20 0.3 117.7553
-2 11075.67 17 0.5 325.755
-1 2086.92 11 1 189.72

Total for the four years: 750.4869404, rounded to 750.

Moving on to the September 2008 point totals.

The columns are as follows: Match date, Opponents' FIFA trigramme, FIFA match points for Mexico

"0.2 time frame"

8-Sep-2004 TRI 646.8
6-Oct-2004 VIN 343.2
10-Oct-2004 VIN 343.2
13-Oct-2004 TRI 646.8
27-Oct-2004 ECU 448.8
10-Nov-2004 GUA 319.44
13-Nov-2004 SKN 699.6
17-Nov-2004 SKN 699.6
26-Jan-2005 SWE 168.26
9-Feb-2005 CRC 1122
23-Feb-2005 COL 173.91
9-Mar-2005 ARG 185.13
27-Mar-2005 USA 1201.2
30-Mar-2005 PAN 259.6
27-Apr-2005 POL 157.92
4-Jun-2005 GUA 891
8-Jun-2005 TRI 712.8
16-Jun-2005 JPN 1292.31
19-Jun-2005 BRA 1683
22-Jun-2005 GRE 547.08
26-Jun-2005 ARG 555.39
29-Jun-2005 GER 0
8-Jul-2005 RSA 0
10-Jul-2005 GUA 982.08
13-Jul-2005 JAM 1164.24
17-Jul-2005 COL 0
17-Aug-2005 CRC 1102.2
3-Sep-2005 USA 0

"0.3 time frame"

7-Sep-2005 PAN 838.2
8-Oct-2005 GUA 871.2
12-Oct-2005 TRI 0
26-Oct-2005 URU 544.17
16-Nov-2005 BUL 0
14-Dec-2005 HUN 344.04
25-Jan-2006 NOR 448.38
15-Feb-2006 KOR 0
1-Mar-2006 GHA 386.655
29-Mar-2006 PAR 513.315
5-May-2006 VEN 375.87
12-May-2006 COD 339.945
27-May-2006 FRA 0
1-Jun-2006 NED 0
11-Jun-2006 IRN 1598.52
16-Jun-2006 ANG 487.86
21-Jun-2006 POR 0
24-Jun-2006 ARG 0

"0.5 time frame"

7-Feb-2007 USA 0
28-Feb-2007 VEN 367.83
25-Mar-2007 PAR 469.395
28-Mar-2007 ECU 483.12
2-Jun-2007 IRN 405.45
5-Jun-2007 PAR 0
8-Jun-2007 CUB 986.85
10-Jun-2007 HON 0
13-Jun-2007 PAN 1132.2
17-Jun-2007 CRC 1178.1
24-Jun-2007 USA 0
27-Jun-2007 BRA 1622.295
1-Jul-2007 ECU 1284.66
4-Jul-2007 CHI 403.515
8-Jul-2007 PAR 1342.305
11-Jul-2007 ARG 0
14-Jul-2007 URU 1399.95
22-Aug-2007 COL 0

"1.0 time frame"

12-Sep-2007 BRA 0
14-Oct-2007 NGA 150.45
17-Oct-2007 GUA 0
6-Feb-2008 USA 153
26-Mar-2008 GHA 471.75
16-Apr-2008 CHN 300.9
4-Jun-2008 ARG 0
8-Jun-2008 PER 373.32
15-Jun-2008 BLZ 318.75
21-Jun-2008 BLZ 318.75
20-Aug-2008 HON 886.125

Adding it up:

Year - Points - Matches - Multiplier - Total

-4 16345.56 28 0.2 116.754
-3 6748.155 18 0.3 112.4693
-2 11075.67 18 0.5 307.6575
-1 2973.045 11 1 270.2768

Total for the four years: 807.1575682, rounded to 807.

There you go, Mexico gained 57 points.

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6 comments:

  1. AnonymousSeptember 9, 2008 at 11:44 PM

    He didn't say FIFA were wrong in their calculation.
    He is right that FIFA's rankings are a joke. It's based too much on the last year, plus friendlies lower your rankings! No one really takes this rankings seriously.
    In Israel, which currently ranked 19th, everyone laughs at this and say that we should lose on purpose and then we might become no. 1...

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  2. EdgarSeptember 10, 2008 at 7:22 AM

    You're wrong Amir. He's saying just that. Look at his most recent post.

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  3. AnonymousSeptember 10, 2008 at 1:25 PM

    Could you please post this kind of points breakdown for Croatia?

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  4. EdgarSeptember 10, 2008 at 1:29 PM

    I knew it would be a mistake to post the detailed point totals for Mexico :)

    Sorry, I just don't have the time right now.

    Maybe I will post them at some point in the future, but I fear I will receive more and more requests for detailed point totals :)

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  5. EdgarSeptember 10, 2008 at 2:35 PM

    Here you go.

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  6. AnonymousSeptember 11, 2008 at 6:19 PM

    Thanks a lot.
    I actually thought you have this data already calculated and everything and you only need to c/p it. Sorry. :)

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