First of all, the official PDF explaining the FIFA Women's Ranking has a couple of errors (certain, not possible). I figured them out, then I've applied the formula to compute the December 2011 ranking using the September - December 2011 games. Looking only at the top 100, I get different values for 26 teams, the difference being between 0.36% (Colombia) and 0.05% (England).
Also see the March ranking I've posted earlier today.
27 Oct Mexico - Colombia 1 - 0 a.e.t. (Friendly)
According to FIFA:
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=mex/ranking/gender=f/index.html
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=col/ranking/gender=f/index.html
Mexico lost 5 points, while Colombia gained 4. Now, this (teams gaining/losing different amounts of points) only happens in draws. Sure enough, if I replace the 1 - 0 aet with a 0 - 0 result, I get the same points (-5 and 4). Are FIFA using only the result after 90 minutes? Is this my mistake or theirs?
22 Oct Cameroon - Nigeria 2 - 1 AET 4 - 3 PSO (Olympic Football Tournament Women Qualifier)
According to FIFA:
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=cmr/ranking/gender=f/index.html
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=nga/ranking/gender=f/index.html
Cameroon gained 24, with Nigeria losing the same amount.
According to the formula, Cameroon should have gained (and Nigeria should have lost): 45 * (0.84 - 0.21015582) = 28 points (rounded down from 28.3429881).
15 Dec Brazil - Denmark 0 - 1 (Friendly)
According to FIFA:
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=bra/ranking/gender=f/index.html
http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=den/ranking/gender=f/index.html
Brazil lost 10 points, Denmark gained 11. That's wrong. They should have exchanged the same amount of points (11), not different amounts - this only happens in draws.
Looking only at the top 15 of the September ranking:
1. USA - no problems - same points scored in each of the 2 matches.
2. Germany - no problems - same points scored in each of the 4 matches.
3. Brazil - all kinds of problems. See the table - the last column contains my values.
| 18/12 | BRA 2:1 (0:0) DEN | Friendly Women | 0 | 0 |
| 15/12 | BRA 0:1 (0:0) DEN | Friendly Women | -10 | -11 |
| 11/12 | BRA 4:0 (3:0) CHI | Friendly Women | -1 | 0 |
| 08/12 | BRA 5:1 (1:1) ITA | Friendly Women | 3 | 2 |
| 27/10 | BRA 1:1 a.e.t. (1:1, 1:0) 3:4 PSO CAN | Friendly Women | -9 | -6 |
| 25/10 | BRA 1:0 (0:0) MEX | Friendly Women | -1 | 1 |
| 22/10 | BRA 0:0 CAN | Friendly Women | -8 | -7 |
| 20/10 | BRA 2:1 (0:0) CRC | Friendly Women | -2 | -2 |
| 18/10 | ARG 0:2 (0:2) BRA | Friendly Women | 0 | 0 |
4. Japan - no matches, no problems.
5. Sweden - no problems - same points scored in each of the 3 matches.
6. England - only one match is different by 1 point
| 23/11 | ENG 2:0 (1:0) SRB | WCQ | -1 | -1 |
| 27/10 | NED 0:0 ENG | WCQ | -1 | 0 |
| 22/09 | ENG 4:0 (2:0) SVN | WCQ | 0 | 0 |
7. France - 2 of the 5 matches are different, but they cancel each other out.
| 20/11 | FRA 5:0 (4:0) MEX | FW | 3 | 2 |
| 16/11 | FRA 8:0 (4:0) URU | FW | 0 | 0 |
| 26/10 | FRA 5:0 (4:0) ISR | WCQ | 0 | 0 |
| 22/10 | WAL 1:4 (1:1) FRA | WCQ | 1 | 2 |
| 22/09 | IRL 1:3 (0:0) FRA | WCQ | 4 | 4 |
8. Korea DPR - no matches, no problems.
9. Canada - 2 of the 7 matches are different. Both against Brazil.
| 22/11 | CAN 2:1 (0:1) SWE | FW | 15 | 15 |
| 27/10 | BRA 1:1 a.e.t. (1:1, 1:0) 3:4 PSO CAN | FW | 9 | 6 |
| 25/10 | COL 1:2 (0:0) CAN | FW | 0 | 0 |
| 22/10 | BRA 0:0 CAN | FW | 5 | 6 |
| 20/10 | CAN 1:0 (0:0) ARG | FW | 0 | 0 |
| 18/10 | CAN 3:1 (1:1) CRC | FW | 0 | 0 |
| 22/09 | USA 3:0 (0:0) CAN | FW | -4 | -4 |
10. Australia - no matches, no problems.
11. Italy - 1 match of 7 different by 1 point.
| 18/12 | ITA 3:2 (1:1) CHI | FW | -1 | -1 |
| 15/12 | CHI 0:6 (0:3) ITA | FW | 2 | 1 |
| 11/12 | ITA 2:2 (1:0) DEN | FW | -1 | -1 |
| 08/12 | BRA 5:1 (1:1) ITA | FW | -2 | -2 |
| 23/11 | ITA 2:0 (0:0) GRE | WCQ | -2 | -2 |
| 19/11 | POL 0:5 (0:1) ITA | WCQ | 7 | 7 |
| 26/10 | ITA 2:0 (2:0) RUS | WCQ | 4 | 4 |
| 22/10 | MKD 0:9 (0:6) ITA | WCQ | 0 | 0 |
12. Norway - no problems - same points scored in each of the 3 matches.
13. Netherlands - 1 of the 5 matches different by 1 point.
| 24/11 | NED 2:0 (2:0) CRO | WCQ | -2 | -2 |
| 19/11 | SVN 0:2 (0:1) NED | WCQ | 0 | 0 |
| 27/10 | NED 0:0 ENG | WCQ | -1 | -2 |
| 22/10 | CRO 0:3 (0:0) NED | WCQ | 1 | 1 |
| 21/09 | NED 6:0 (1:0) SRB | WCQ | 2 | 2 |
14. Denmark - no problems - same points scored in each of the 8 matches.
15. Iceland - no problems - same points scored in each of the 3 matches.
This is very weird. I thought wins after Extra Time count as regular wins. E.g. Japan got the points for a 1:0 win against Germany during the WWC and not for the 0:0 draw after 90 minutes.
ReplyDeleteI don't know how it works with penalty shoot-outs, but I think Japan got points for a normal draw against the USA in the final of the WWC.
Maybe their is some hidden confederation factor?
On a slightly different note, there may be a few hundred women's matches added (and some removed) to/from the rankings calculation over the next few weeks or months. Most of these will be older matches, so I don't think they should affect the calculation too much... I'm not sure that FIFA will make any announcements on this, perhaps taking advantage of the fact that the women's ranking is less scrutinised by the media to just slip the results in and hope nobody notices.
ReplyDeleteEdgar, I have an idea. Maybe FIFA don't update the ranking points after every match, but only when they publish the new rankings?
ReplyDeleteE.g. when USA played Sweden in Algarve they used the ranking points of USA and Sweden from the last published rankings.
No, I'd get different points for more teams this way. They update the points after each match.
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