Four matches left:
29/06 Yemen - Morocco (Friendly)
30/06 Central African Republic - Egypt (Continental Qualifier)
30/06 Sudan - Iraq (Friendly)
01/07 Spain - Italy (Continental Final)
This is how the points can change for these 8 teams:
L = loss, D = draw, W = win, PSO = penalty shootout.
Spain (L: 1592; PSO L: 1625; PSO W: 1658; W: 1691)
Italy (L: 1192; PSO L: 1232; PSO W: 1272; W: 1312)
Egypt (L: 618; PSO L or D: 631; PSO W: 644; W: 657)
Morocco (L: 462; D: 465; W: 471)
Iraq (L: 424; D: 428; W: 437)
Central African Republic (L: 421; PSO L or D: 462; PSO W: 503; W: 543)
Sudan (L: 325; D: 329; W: 338)
Yemen (L: 179; D: 198; W: 235)
In the table below, the values displayed for these teams are the lowest possible, thus even if they lose their totals won't drop.
Two matches have been removed from FIFA.com: Iran - Mozambique 3 - 0 (2 May 2012) and Finland - Turkey 3 - 2 (26 May 2012). I don't know the reason.
Spain will keep their top spot even if they lose against Italy in the final. Germany will be second.
Italy could climb to 3rd with a win against Spain. They will be 6th if they lose and 5th if the final goes to PSO.
Gli Azzurri will thus replace Brazil in the top 10, with A Seleção dropping to 11th. The Brazilians could have fallen to 14th, but certain EURO 2012 results went their way.
Best movers:
40 - Tahiti
27 - Bolivia
17 - Namibia
Tahiti will climb one extra spot if Yemen do not defeat Iraq.
Central African Republic will climb 36 spots to 57th with a win against Egypt.
Worst movers:
-33 - Faroe Islands
-22 - Vietnam
-20 - Gambia
Best movers in the top 50:
9 - Czech Republic and Ecuador
7 - Korea Republic
6 - Italy and Ukraine
Italy will climb 3 extra spots with a win against Spain, while Egypt will also climb a total of 9 spots with a win against Central African Republic.
Worst movers in the top 50:
-8 - Republic of Ireland, Ghana, USA and Scotland
-7 - Venezuela
-6 - Brazil
Six teams will improve their best ever ranking:
Libya (40th - 42nd in June 2012)
Haiti (63rd - 66th in November 2007)
Central African Republic (82nd - 90th in July 2011)
Belize (131st - 133rd in January 2012)
Afghanistan (162nd - 164th in May 2011)
American Samoa (183rd - 186th in December 2011)
Libya will climb one extra spot if Egypt do not defeat Central African Republic avoiding PSO.
Haiti will climb one extra spot if Central African Republic do not defeat Egypt.
Central Africa Republic will climb to 57th if they defeat Egypt.
Aruba will return to their best ever ranking - 164th - first achieved in February 1994.
England could also return to their best ever ranking (4th - happened 4 times, not twice as this article claims), if Italy don't defeat Spain after 120 minutes.
Four teams will return to their worst ever rankings:
Indonesia (153rd - first happened in December 2006)
Singapore (158th - first happened in April 2012)
Laos (190th - first happened in June 2008)
Macau (199th - first happened in March 2012)
Seven teams will drop to new lows:
Brazil (11th - 8th in August 1993)
USA (36th - 35th in October 1997)
Saudi Arabia (101st - 98th in October 2011)
Myanmar (180th - 177th in March 2012)
Swaziland (182nd - 180th in December 2011)
Cambodia (192nd - 188th in December 2005)
Bhutan (205th - 203rd in June 2012)
USA will drop to their worst ever ranking on their national day.
Israel (their worst ranking is 81st in June 2012) will drop to 82nd if Iraq defeat Sudan and Egypt defeat Central African Republic avoiding PSO. If only one of these happens, they will be 81st.
Honduras and El Salvador out of CONCACAF's top 5, replaced by Costa Rica (4th) and Haiti (5th).
Argentina replace Brazil as 2nd in CONMEBOL.
Tahiti jump from 7th to 2nd in OFC, after winning the OFC Nations Cup. Samoa out of the top 5.
Portugal and Italy replace Netherlands and Croatia in the European top 5. Italy could climb to 3rd with a win against Spain.
July 2012 rank - Team - July 2012 points - +/- Ranking - +/- Points
1 | Spain | 1592 | 0 | 136 |
2 | Germany | 1502 | 1 | 214 |
3 | Uruguay | 1297 | -1 | 5 |
4 | England | 1294 | 2 | 149 |
5 | Portugal | 1213 | 5 | 217 |
6 | Italy | 1192 | 6 | 215 |
7 | Argentina | 1095 | 0 | -42 |
8 | Netherlands | 1079 | -4 | -155 |
9 | Croatia | 1050 | -1 | -3 |
10 | Denmark | 1017 | -1 | -2 |
11 | Brazil | 1012 | -6 | -143 |
12 | Greece | 1003 | 3 | 50 |
13 | Russia | 981 | 0 | 6 |
14 | France | 980 | 0 | 16 |
15 | Chile | 961 | -4 | -33 |
16 | Côte d'Ivoire | 939 | 0 | -4 |
17 | Sweden | 909 | 0 | -1 |
18 | Czech Republic | 854 | 9 | 83 |
19 | Mexico | 832 | 0 | -57 |
20 | Japan | 829 | 3 | 7 |
21 | Switzerland | 828 | 0 | -40 |
22 | Colombia | 814 | -2 | -66 |
23 | Australia | 807 | 1 | -13 |
24 | Norway | 780 | 2 | -7 |
25 | Paraguay | 772 | -3 | -61 |
26 | Republic of Ireland | 762 | -8 | -145 |
27 | Ecuador | 752 | 9 | 59 |
28 | Korea Republic | 740 | 7 | 21 |
29 | Turkey | 735 | 4 | 3 |
30 | Bosnia-Herzegovina | 729 | -1 | -27 |
31 | Hungary | 716 | 0 | -19 |
32 | Peru | 712 | 5 | 24 |
33 | Ghana | 707 | -8 | -111 |
34 | Slovenia | 706 | -4 | -36 |
35 | Algeria | 693 | -3 | -41 |
36 | USA | 687 | -8 | -80 |
37 | Serbia | 675 | -3 | -50 |
38 | Wales | 658 | 0 | 0 |
39 | Libya | 655 | 3 | 47 |
40 | Mali | 650 | 3 | 49 |
41 | Zambia | 648 | 2 | 47 |
42 | Tunisia | 627 | 4 | 36 |
43 | Slovakia | 626 | -4 | -23 |
44 | Gabon | 624 | 5 | 38 |
45 | Ukraine | 621 | 7 | 49 |
46 | Egypt | 618 | 2 | 30 |
47 | Venezuela | 615 | -7 | 1 |
48 | Panama | 612 | -2 | 21 |
49 | Scotland | 611 | -8 | 0 |
50 | Iran | 581 | -5 | -15 |
50 | Montenegro | 581 | 0 | 0 |
52 | Romania | 580 | 0 | 8 |
53 | Belgium | 564 | 1 | 0 |
54 | Poland | 560 | 8 | 42 |
55 | Armenia | 559 | -4 | -20 |
56 | Estonia | 554 | 1 | 26 |
57 | Costa Rica | 541 | 8 | 34 |
58 | Nigeria | 525 | 2 | 5 |
59 | Cameroon | 520 | 5 | 5 |
60 | Austria | 517 | -2 | -7 |
61 | Senegal | 506 | 2 | -11 |
62 | Haiti | 503 | 9 | 13 |
63 | Honduras | 496 | -8 | -54 |
63 | Jamaica | 496 | -3 | -24 |
65 | Sierra Leone | 488 | -6 | -35 |
65 | Uzbekistan | 488 | 1 | -15 |
67 | El Salvador | 487 | -12 | -63 |
68 | Canada | 474 | 9 | 17 |
68 | China PR | 474 | 5 | -7 |
68 | South Africa | 474 | 0 | -25 |
71 | Latvia | 466 | 5 | 7 |
72 | Morocco | 462 | -2 | -29 |
73 | Finland | 458 | 2 | -6 |
74 | Albania | 448 | 5 | -3 |
74 | Guinea | 448 | -7 | -54 |
76 | Belarus | 447 | -7 | -50 |
77 | Benin | 446 | -5 | -43 |
78 | Cape Verde Islands | 441 | -1 | -16 |
79 | Trinidad and Tobago | 432 | 3 | 7 |
80 | Israel | 427 | 1 | 0 |
81 | Iraq | 424 | -7 | -53 |
82 | Central African Republic | 421 | 11 | 55 |
83 | Bolivia | 419 | 27 | 107 |
84 | Jordan | 417 | -4 | -12 |
85 | Uganda | 409 | 9 | 46 |
86 | Angola | 407 | -2 | -9 |
87 | Burkina Faso | 405 | -1 | -2 |
88 | Guatemala | 401 | -3 | -11 |
89 | Korea DPR | 386 | 0 | 11 |
90 | Lithuania | 376 | -2 | -4 |
91 | Congo | 375 | -8 | -47 |
92 | Bulgaria | 373 | -2 | 0 |
93 | Kuwait | 370 | -6 | -13 |
93 | Malawi | 370 | 14 | 46 |
95 | New Zealand | 366 | 5 | 25 |
96 | Oman | 358 | 1 | 9 |
97 | Georgia | 357 | -2 | -2 |
98 | Qatar | 356 | -7 | -16 |
98 | Togo | 356 | 0 | 13 |
100 | Zimbabwe | 347 | 6 | 18 |
101 | Saudi Arabia | 339 | -9 | -30 |
102 | Northern Ireland | 336 | 1 | 0 |
103 | Bahrain | 331 | -8 | -28 |
103 | FYR Macedonia | 331 | -2 | -7 |
105 | Antigua and Barbuda | 326 | 0 | -4 |
106 | Sudan | 325 | -5 | -13 |
107 | Mozambique | 316 | 10 | 26 |
108 | Azerbaijan | 308 | 4 | 8 |
109 | Guyana | 304 | -5 | -28 |
110 | Luxembourg | 303 | 11 | 20 |
111 | Equatorial Guinea | 302 | 3 | 4 |
112 | St. Kitts and Nevis | 301 | 2 | 3 |
113 | Botswana | 296 | 3 | 1 |
114 | Congo DR | 291 | 13 | 34 |
114 | Niger | 291 | 8 | 12 |
116 | United Arab Emirates | 287 | 3 | 3 |
117 | Bermuda | 281 | -8 | -37 |
117 | Namibia | 281 | 17 | 35 |
119 | Ethiopia | 273 | 11 | 24 |
120 | Liberia | 272 | 4 | -5 |
120 | Vietnam | 272 | -22 | -71 |
122 | Cyprus | 266 | 3 | 0 |
123 | Chad | 262 | -11 | -38 |
124 | Tajikistan | 258 | 5 | 4 |
125 | Kenya | 256 | -14 | -47 |
125 | Rwanda | 256 | -6 | -28 |
127 | Tanzania | 253 | 12 | 39 |
128 | Gambia | 251 | -20 | -69 |
129 | Iceland | 250 | 2 | 2 |
130 | Dominican Republic | 247 | 3 | 0 |
131 | Belize | 242 | 4 | 6 |
132 | Sao Tome e Principe | 240 | -14 | -48 |
132 | Suriname | 240 | -4 | -15 |
132 | Syria | 240 | -6 | -23 |
135 | Thailand | 235 | 1 | 1 |
136 | Burundi | 234 | -5 | -14 |
137 | Turkmenistan | 223 | 1 | 4 |
138 | Tahiti | 214 | 41 | 128 |
139 | Moldova | 213 | 1 | 1 |
140 | Puerto Rico | 210 | -3 | -14 |
141 | Nicaragua | 209 | 0 | 0 |
142 | Grenada | 204 | 2 | -2 |
143 | New Caledonia | 200 | 12 | 50 |
144 | Lebanon | 197 | -1 | -10 |
145 | Malta | 196 | 2 | 1 |
145 | St. Vincent and the Grenadines | 196 | 1 | 0 |
147 | Kazakhstan | 195 | -6 | -14 |
148 | Yemen | 179 | 11 | 38 |
149 | Liechtenstein | 177 | -1 | 0 |
150 | Cuba | 171 | -5 | -26 |
151 | Bangladesh | 160 | 1 | 3 |
152 | Philippines | 157 | -3 | -7 |
153 | Indonesia | 156 | -2 | -3 |
154 | Palestine | 154 | -1 | 1 |
155 | Faroe Islands | 149 | -33 | -130 |
155 | Nepal | 149 | -6 | -15 |
157 | Malaysia | 139 | -3 | -12 |
158 | Curacao | 138 | 2 | 1 |
158 | Singapore | 138 | -1 | -5 |
160 | Hong Kong | 132 | -2 | -10 |
161 | Fiji | 130 | 0 | -3 |
162 | Afghanistan | 122 | 6 | 8 |
163 | India | 121 | 1 | 0 |
164 | Aruba | 120 | 1 | 0 |
164 | Maldives | 120 | 1 | 0 |
166 | Lesotho | 119 | 4 | 10 |
167 | Madagascar | 115 | -4 | -13 |
168 | Vanuatu | 104 | 3 | 1 |
169 | Guinea-Bissau | 103 | 0 | -8 |
170 | Barbados | 100 | 8 | 13 |
171 | Bahamas | 99 | -9 | -33 |
172 | Dominica | 95 | 1 | 0 |
173 | Samoa | 93 | -17 | -56 |
174 | Solomon Islands | 92 | 9 | 17 |
175 | Tonga | 87 | 1 | -1 |
176 | Chinese Taipei | 86 | -9 | -29 |
177 | US Virgin Islands | 85 | 5 | 7 |
178 | Cayman Islands | 72 | 7 | 0 |
178 | Pakistan | 72 | 3 | -10 |
180 | Myanmar | 67 | -6 | -27 |
181 | Sri Lanka | 64 | 3 | -10 |
182 | Swaziland | 63 | -3 | -23 |
183 | American Samoa | 61 | 3 | 0 |
184 | Mongolia | 55 | -8 | -33 |
185 | Comoros | 54 | 2 | 0 |
186 | St. Lucia | 52 | 2 | 0 |
187 | Papua New Guinea | 46 | 6 | 12 |
187 | Seychelles | 46 | 2 | -2 |
189 | Eritrea | 45 | 1 | 0 |
190 | Laos | 44 | -18 | -52 |
191 | Somalia | 43 | 0 | 0 |
192 | Cambodia | 40 | -17 | -53 |
193 | Mauritius | 38 | -1 | 1 |
194 | Guam | 32 | 0 | 0 |
195 | Cook Islands | 25 | 0 | -3 |
196 | Djibouti | 24 | 1 | 1 |
196 | Kyrgyzstan | 24 | 0 | 0 |
198 | Andorra | 15 | 1 | 0 |
199 | British Virgin Islands | 13 | 1 | 0 |
199 | Macau | 13 | -1 | -4 |
201 | Brunei Darussalam | 5 | 1 | 0 |
202 | Anguilla | 4 | -1 | -5 |
202 | Mauritania | 4 | 1 | 0 |
204 | Timor-Leste | 2 | 1 | 0 |
205 | Bhutan | 0 | -2 | -4 |
205 | Montserrat | 0 | 1 | 0 |
205 | San Marino | 0 | 1 | 0 |
205 | Turks and Caicos Islands | 0 | 1 | 0 |
What happened to Finland points? 480 or 458?
ReplyDeleteFinland - Turkey 3 - 2 has been removed from FIFA.com.
Delete"USA will drop to their worst ever ranking on their national day."
ReplyDeleteThis pleases me. Not because I have anything against the US, but because I've heard people calling for Hadgson to be sacked and replaced with Klinsmann. He's been put into their minds due to his presence as a pundit in the Euro. But also I've heard stories of how he's got the USA playing great football, and how much better he' be than England. Utter nonsense. They've probably seen the destruction of Scotland, if that, and nothing else. Klinsmann is making Bob Bradley look like a top class coach, Klinsmann's USA is getting beat like a drum. Yes he's tried to play expansive football, and it hasn't gotten him anywhere. I honestly think there's a chance that the US won't qualify to Brazil. A small one, becaue I would be surprised if they finished any lower than 4th in the hex, and I think they could handle Oceania's representative, especially with New Zealand's terrible form.
*how much better he'd be for England*
DeleteOn second thoughts, maybe I was being harsh. I do honestly believe they were better under Bradley, but I was looking at his results, and he's actually raised USA's ELO rank by 7pts in his time there.
DeleteNot being beaten like a drum as I said earlier anyway. They've won some matches.
If you take a look to the way the points are build up, you could analyse the form of some teams by looking at their points in the last timeframe. Sao Tome e Principe score 100% of their points in the last 12 months, which counts for 50% of the total points.Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea And Andorra did the same thing.
ReplyDeleteLooking at the top-countries, Spain scores 46,5%, Germany 54,5%, Uruguay 65,3%, England 54,3% and Italy 58,6%
So it looks Spain has a lesser form than Italy, and therefor Italy is my slight favorite for the Euro2012 final.
And Holland? Well, Holland only scored 24,5% of their points in the last 12 months, which can be compared to countries like Montenegro and Georgia.
What this say? Nothing really, is fun to look at those statistics. Same applies on the next one.
What if no FIFA 'A'-matches were to be playes in the next 12 months, what would the FIFA-ranking look like?
Spain would still be the undisputed number 1, and Germany number 2. Portugal would be the new number 3, followed by Italy. England would be 5th, Czech Republic 6th, Greece 7th, Sweden 8th, France 9th and Uruguay 10th.
Argentina would fall to 13th, Netherlands to 15th, Brazil 16th and Chile 18th. The decline of the Dutch would start in November, when they would fall outside the top 10.
Thank God there will be 'A'-matches the coming months, so that everyone has the opportunity to improve (or destroy) their rankings.
I really dislike the 100/50/30/20 ratio. It's too extreme having the last year worth the same as all 3 years before that combined.
DeleteI'd like to see what a 100/75/50/25 ratio would look like.
Or what about 100/100/50/50? International football is on a 2 year cycle.
I will calculate those rankings tonight, and post them here.
DeleteHow do you do that? Do you have a database you can tweak the percentages for or something?
DeleteI'm actually liking my 100/100/50/50 idea the most now. It seems both the fairest and by far the simplest.
Yes , I have a database with all the results and corresponding points . And with that I can calculate all the weighting factors. I wanted to post it yesterday but I didn't have time. Maybe tonight , for now I'm watching the prologue of the Tour de France.
DeleteI've made some tables with different weightings. The first table uses the same timeframes as FIFA, but the weighting is the same, so every timeframe counts 100%:
Delete1 Spain 3420
2 Germany 2827
3 Netherlands 2724
4 Brazil 2506
5 England 2504
6 Uruguay 2358
7 Portugal 2196
8 Argentina 2174
9 Italy 2172
10 Greece 2001
Second table is with same timeframe as FIFA, but with a 100-100-50-50 weighting:
1 Spain 2554
2 Germany 2150
3 England 1888
4 Netherlands 1872
5 Portugal 1713
6 Italy 1711
7 Uruguay 1709
8 Brazil 1628
9 Argentina 1550
10 Croatia 1537
Third table: same timeframe as FIFA, with 100-75-50-25 weighting:
1 Spain 2136
2 Germany 1861
3 England 1588
4 Uruguay 1541
5 Netherlands 1498
6 Portugal 1496
7 Italy 1447
8 Argentina 1351
9 Croatia 1296
10 Brazil 1292
And finally, a table with 4 timeframes, same weighting as FIFA (100-50-30-20) but the timeframes are not 1 year, but 6 months. So games from July 4th 2010 onwards are taken into account:
1 Spain 1696
2 Germany 1569
3 Italy 1325
4 England 1301
5 Portugal 1275
6 Croatia 1027
7 France 995
8 Russia 982
9 Sweden 972
10 Uruguay 965
In the last table, Argentina are 15th, Netherlands 21st, Brazil 23rd
Very interesting. Pleasantly surprised to see England do so well on all the examples. I'm also glad you included full 100% as I've toyed with that idea too. I generally dismissed the idea though after what's happened to Egypt, going from champs to chumps in the blink of an eye. They'd be feeding a lot of undeserved points to the teams that beat them under full 100%. International football fluctuates more than club football I feel. ALso, club football, at least UEFA club football, has a ranking which only takes results into account, so such a thing wouldn't be a problem, it's somewhat akin to the UEFA coefficient.
DeleteI'm looking forward to England finally taking that elusive third place and the subsequent reaction to that place in August. It will be fun, coming right after 4th.
Psssst. We're not so bad you know...
I know, Lorric, I know. And that is being explained further by another statistical fact.
DeleteIf you look at all the countries that played 20 or more "A"-international games the past 4 years, England has the best points per game-ratio. England played 45 games the past 4 years and has 1294 points, which makes a point per game ratio of 28,76. The top 10:
Pl. Country FIFA-Pt. Games Average
1 England 1294 45 28,76
2 Spain 1691 61 27,72
3 Germany 1502 55 27,31
4 Libya 655 24 27,29
5 Croatia 1050 40 26,25
6 Uruguay 1297 51 25,43
7 Portugal 1213 48 25,27
8 Russia 981 39 25,15
9 Italy 1192 53 22,49
10 Cape Verde Islands 441 20 22,05
That's very nice, but it's not fair. Spain are the champions of everything, but because they've played so many games it dilutes their average. More games into a system that runs on averages is unfair.
DeleteFor instance, imagine if France decided their team was not fit to compete in internationals anymore until the ego problems are sorted, and withdrew from international competition, resurfacing for the first time as Euro 2016 hosts. Unless they did terribly, their points per game average would be huge.
Interesting proposal Lorric. Biggest downside I can think of is the over inflation of CONMEBOL teams after Copa America as both that and the World Cup would be at 100% value.
ReplyDeleteCompared to the inflation after every tournament we have now, it would at least be an improvement. They'd be artifically deflated before every World Cup, too.
DeleteBest possible illustration: New Zealand are going up in the rankings after losing to a micronation.
It would have no impact on seedings though. And there are plenty of quirky happenings like that in the current rankings, which is why people see them as a joke. Way too much drastic change and seemingly inexplicable change.
DeleteJust to clarify, the European Championship would still be at 100% when the World Cup draw was made.
DeleteOh wait, I see the potential problem. But I still don't think it would impact unfairly on South America though, as they'd still have their mass of qualifiers before the World Cup. Essentially a bigger, better Copa America, with the slighlty lower bonus multiplier offset by more games than both competitions put together and no minnows to drag averages down.
DeleteLorric: The World Cup draw will be made in November 2012, so the Euro will be at 50%.
DeleteI take it you mean 2013.
DeleteUnder my proposal of 2 years being worth 100% it would be 100%.
there are 7 teams (only the ones which played at least 3 matches) left which did not lose in 2012:
ReplyDeleteRnk Team 3/2/1/0 ave
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1 Tahiti 5/0/0/0 3.0
2 Argentina 3/0/0/0 3.0
3 Spain 8/1/1/0 2.7
4 Côte d'Ivoire 9/0/3/0 2.5
5 Austria 2/0/1/0 2.3
6 Romania 2/0/2/0 2.0
7 Uruguay 1/0/3/0 1.5
sorry, I missed Hungary:
DeleteRnk Team 3/2/1/0 ave
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1 Tahiti 5/0/0/0 3.0
2 Argentina 3/0/0/0 3.0
3 Spain 8/1/1/0 2.7
4 Côte d'Ivoire 9/0/3/0 2.5
5 Austria 2/0/1/0 2.3
6 Romania 2/0/2/0 2.0
7 Hungary 1/0/2/0 1.7
8 Uruguay 1/0/3/0 1.5
Slovenia (only 2 Matches yet) can kick out Romania in August...
Slovenia kicked out Romania, but there are still 8 teams left:
DeleteRnk Team 3/2/1/0 ave
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1 Tahiti 5/0/0/0 3.0
2 Argentina 4/0/0/0 3.0
3 Spain 9/1/1/0 2.7
4 Austria 3/0/1/0 2.5
5 Côte d'Ivoire 9/0/4/0 2.4
6 Slovenia 1/0/2/0 1.7
7 Hungary 1/0/3/0 1.5
8 Uruguay 1/0/4/0 1.4
9/11 can bring massive changes:
Austria - Germany
Norway - Slovenia
Hungary - Netherlands
I see you there Edgar:
ReplyDeletehttp://worldsport.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/04/are-fifas-world-rankings-fit-for-purpose/
:)
Yes, Alex Thomas a bit surprised by England's ranking :)
DeleteThe final preview for the ranking of August isn't hard to do. Only four matches scheduled so far, with South Sudan making an entrance with a game against Uganda on July 11th.
ReplyDelete@Lorric
ReplyDeleteYes, Alex needed some quotes from me and he got them through John Sinnott :)
@Tobcoach
You're right - but the blog doesn't come first in my list of priorities.