In case you hadn't noticed, the World Cup in Qatar is to be played next month. The tournament was already 10 years ago assigned to a country without any football tradition. It is proven in the meantime that a large part of FIFA's Executive Committee, that would choose the hosts for the two upcoming tournaments in 2018 and 2022 in a closed voting session, was bribed with large amounts of money and other privileges (one only has to think about Platini's son and his sudden career moves).
After the assignment there were a number of controversies around Qatar:
- the high temperatures in the Summer desert which wouldn't allow for football on any part of the day. It forced the tournament to be played in the Winter, resulting in all kinds of organisational and logistical challenges for football associations worldwide;
- the country has a population of some 300.000 indigenous Qatari's next to an immigrant working force of about 2.3 million expatriates. The miserable circumstances for a large part of the immigrant workers that had to build stadiums and other World Cup infrastructure as a modern slave in dangerous working conditions are documented: more than 5.000 workers died during those building activities, whatever Infantino says to downplay those facts;
- being the first Muslim country in the Arabic world to host the tournament, 'suddenly' it became clear that, although Qatar certainly is not as strict as for instance neighbor Saudi Arabia, it still is an Emirate country with the Muslim Sharia law as the basic source of legislation. Restrictions on civil liberties such as the freedoms of association, expression and the press are standard in those countries and Qatar's human rights record is generally poor. See for much more information about Qatar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar.
All in all a large part of the footballing community has serious reservations about the tournament, me included. It shouldn't have been assigned to such a country in the first place. But as it stands FIFA only highlights the advantages and the 'improving' effects of playing football there with 32 countries: blah blah blah. FIFA's contractual obligations wouldn't allow for anything like a re-assignment of the tournament. And... they will earn once again an enormous amount of money from this World Cup: $4.6 billion is the latest estimated revenue, including selling broadcasting rights for $2.6 billion alone. I expect that will mitigate the further damage to their image considerably. Now, I hear you think: was there anything undamaged left in FIFA's image, then ?
An international boycott of the tournament wasn't to be expected: the football associations just want to play football and try to be 'influential' there. I have my doubts if any of that will stick.
About the lacking footballing tradition: Qatar realized they had to develop something on that aspect, otherwise their participation would become a real disaster. They searched and found footballers from around the globe with a trace of Qatari blood in them (or sometimes not even a trace) and started to build a competitive national team.
In 2012 they were down at around spot 100 in the FIFA ranking and they were still in that region when in January 2019 all of a sudden they became Asian champion in the United Arab Emirates by beating all their opposition, including Asian powerhouses Saudi Arabia, South Korea and in the final Japan. That made them leap to spot 55.
After that they sought opposition from other continents to become even stronger: in recent years they participated in continental championships in the Americas. In the Copa America 2019 they couldn't impress and ended last in the group with only 1 point, but in the Gold Cup 2021 they reached the semi finals unbeaten to only narrowly lose to the USA. They are on spot 50 in the ranking at the moment.
So, it won't have anything of a festive atmosphere but here we are: the most important football title is at stake. Let's take a detailed look at the chances of each participating country.
Here are the probabilities (in %) -generated over 10.000 simulations- with all match-results based on NT prediction formula's for goals scored in a match depending on elo win expectancy.
First the group results with teams ordered by average group position (in the last column):
group A |
1st |
2nd |
3rd |
4th |
avg |
Netherlands |
67,41 |
22,25 |
8,11 |
2,23 |
1,45 |
Ecuador |
16,91 |
35,17 |
29,34 |
18,58 |
2,50 |
Qatar |
11,93 |
28,19 |
34,06 |
25,82 |
2,74 |
Senegal |
3,75 |
14,39 |
28,49 |
53,37 |
3,31 |
group B |
1st |
2nd |
3rd |
4th |
avg |
England |
43,56 |
27,11 |
17,67 |
11,66 |
1,97 |
Iran |
20,85 |
25,53 |
27,60 |
26,02 |
2,59 |
USA |
18,67 |
24,20 |
26,83 |
30,30 |
2,69 |
Wales |
16,92 |
23,16 |
27,90 |
32,02 |
2,75 |
group C |
1st |
2nd |
3rd |
4th |
avg |
Argentina |
85,79 |
11,56 |
2,40 |
0,25 |
1,17 |
Poland |
6,82 |
39,34 |
35,95 |
17,89 |
2,649 |
Mexico |
6,67 |
39,21 |
36,39 |
17,73 |
2,652 |
Saudi Arabia |
0,72 |
9,89 |
25,26 |
64,13 |
3,53 |
group D |
1st |
2nd |
3rd |
4th |
avg |
France |
51,30 |
35,32 |
10,26 |
3,12 |
1,65 |
Denmark |
41,59 |
40,40 |
13,93 |
4,08 |
1,81 |
Australia |
4,37 |
13,49 |
41,50 |
40,64 |
3,18 |
Tunisia |
2,74 |
10,79 |
34,31 |
52,16 |
3,36 |
group E |
1st |
2nd |
3rd |
4th |
avg |
Spain |
55,85 |
29,92 |
10,61 |
3,62 |
1,62 |
Germany |
31,77 |
37,87 |
21,10 |
9,26 |
2,08 |
Japan |
8,26 |
19,83 |
37,13 |
34,78 |
2,98 |
Costa Rica |
4,12 |
12,38 |
31,16 |
52,34 |
3,32 |
group F |
1st |
2nd |
3rd |
4th |
avg |
Belgium |
58,73 |
26,47 |
10,78 |
4,02 |
1,60 |
Croatia |
27,39 |
37,95 |
21,74 |
12,92 |
2,20 |
Canada |
7,32 |
18,57 |
34,48 |
39,63 |
3,06 |
Morocco |
6,56 |
17,01 |
33,00 |
43,43 |
3,13 |
group G |
1st |
2nd |
3rd |
4th |
avg |
Brazil |
78,12 |
16,67 |
4,68 |
0,53 |
1,28 |
Switzerland |
12,61 |
44,06 |
36,24 |
7,09 |
2,38 |
Serbia |
8,97 |
36,03 |
44,99 |
10,01 |
2,56 |
Cameroon |
0,30 |
3,24 |
14,09 |
82,37 |
3,79 |
group H |
1st |
2nd |
3rd |
4th |
avg |
Portugal |
55,70 |
31,47 |
11,89 |
0,94 |
1,58 |
Uruguay |
34,14 |
41,21 |
21,59 |
3,06 |
1,94 |
Korea Republic |
9,86 |
24,63 |
51,61 |
13,90 |
2,70 |
Ghana |
0,30 |
2,69 |
14,91 |
82,10 |
3,79 |
Then the focus turns to the knock-out stage with the probabilities to qualify for each knock-out round. From the quarter finals onwards also the percentages are presented (in square brackets) to qualify for the round, given qualification for the previous knock-out round.
Argentina |
97,35 |
Brazil |
94,79 |
Netherlands |
89,66 |
Portugal |
87,17 |
France |
86,62 |
Spain |
85,77 |
Belgium |
85,20 |
Denmark |
81,99 |
Uruguay |
75,35 |
England |
70,67 |
Germany |
69,64 |
Croatia |
65,34 |
Switzerland |
56,67 |
Ecuador |
52,08 |
Iran |
46,38 |
Poland |
46,16 |
Mexico |
45,88 |
Serbia |
45,00 |
USA |
42,87 |
Qatar |
40,12 |
Wales |
40,08 |
Korea Republic |
34,49 |
Japan |
28,09 |
Canada |
25,89 |
Morocco |
23,57 |
Senegal |
18,14 |
Australia |
17,86 |
Costa Rica |
16,50 |
Tunisia |
13,53 |
Saudi Arabia |
10,61 |
Cameroon |
3,54 |
Ghana |
2,99 |
Brazil |
82,22 |
[86,74] |
|
Argentina |
80,96 |
[83,16] |
|
Netherlands |
72,35 |
[80,69] |
|
Spain |
60,64 |
[70,70] |
|
Belgium |
53,60 |
[62,91] |
|
France |
50,27 |
[58,04] |
|
Portugal |
44,71 |
[51,29] |
|
Denmark |
41,43 |
[50,53] |
|
England |
38,84 |
[54,96] |
|
Germany |
36,83 |
[52,89] |
|
Uruguay |
26,88 |
[35,67] |
|
Croatia |
26,74 |
[40,92] |
|
Switzerland |
23,96 |
[42,28] |
|
Ecuador |
23,04 |
[44,24] |
|
Iran |
17,98 |
[38,77] |
|
Serbia |
16,50 |
[36,67] |
|
USA |
15,59 |
[36,37] |
|
Qatar |
14,27 |
[35,57] |
|
Wales |
13,88 |
[34,63] |
|
Poland |
10,88 |
[23,57] |
|
Mexico |
10,51 |
[22,91] |
|
Japan |
8,44 |
[30,05] |
|
Korea Republic |
5,27 |
[15,28] |
|
Canada |
5,26 |
[20,32] |
|
Morocco |
4,64 |
[19,69] |
|
Senegal |
4,05 |
[22,33] |
|
Costa Rica |
3,85 |
[23,33] |
|
Australia |
2,89 |
[16,18] |
|
Tunisia |
1,95 |
[14,41] |
|
Saudi Arabia |
1,11 |
[10,46] |
|
Cameroon |
0,39 |
[11,02] |
|
Ghana |
0,07 |
[02,34] |
Brazil |
65,00 |
[79,06] |
|
Argentina |
63,75 |
[78,74] |
|
France |
34,43 |
[68,49] |
|
Netherlands |
29,81 |
[41,20] |
|
Belgium |
29,50 |
[55,04] |
|
Denmark |
26,91 |
[64,95] |
|
Spain |
26,61 |
[43,88] |
|
Portugal |
24,18 |
[54,08] |
|
England |
13,78 |
[35,48] |
|
Germany |
12,89 |
[35,00] |
|
Uruguay |
11,11 |
[41,33] |
|
Switzerland |
9,82 |
[40,98] |
|
Croatia |
9,41 |
[35,19] |
|
Serbia |
6,33 |
[38,36] |
|
Ecuador |
5,54 |
[24,05] |
|
USA |
4,49 |
[28,80] |
|
Mexico |
4,23 |
[40,25] |
|
Iran |
4,21 |
[23,41] |
|
Poland |
4,13 |
[37,96] |
|
Qatar |
3,26 |
[22,85] |
|
Wales |
3,17 |
[22,84] |
|
Japan |
1,62 |
[19,19] |
|
Korea Republic |
1,24 |
[23,53] |
|
Australia |
0,94 |
[32,53] |
|
Canada |
0,90 |
[17,11] |
|
Morocco |
0,76 |
[16,38] |
|
Tunisia |
0,59 |
[30,26] |
|
Senegal |
0,57 |
[14,07] |
|
Costa Rica |
0,56 |
[14,55] |
|
Saudi Arabia |
0,19 |
[17,12] |
|
Cameroon |
0,05 |
[12,82] |
|
Ghana |
0,02 |
[28,57] |
Brazil |
44,40 |
[68,31] |
|
Argentina |
35,54 |
[55,75] |
|
Belgium |
18,87 |
[63,97] |
|
France |
15,82 |
[45,95] |
|
Portugal |
13,88 |
[57,40] |
|
Spain |
13,74 |
[51,63] |
|
Netherlands |
12,45 |
[41,76] |
|
Denmark |
11,18 |
[41,55] |
|
Germany |
5,55 |
[43,06] |
|
Uruguay |
5,01 |
[45,09] |
|
England |
4,52 |
[32,80] |
|
Croatia |
4,18 |
[44,42] |
|
Switzerland |
3,93 |
[40,02] |
|
Serbia |
2,36 |
[37,28] |
|
USA |
1,26 |
[28,06] |
|
Ecuador |
1,17 |
[21,12] |
|
Iran |
1,05 |
[24,94] |
|
Mexico |
0,94 |
[22,22] |
|
Poland |
0,89 |
[21,55] |
|
Qatar |
0,77 |
[23,62] |
|
Wales |
0,64 |
[20,19] |
|
Japan |
0,47 |
[29,01] |
|
Korea Republic |
0,35 |
[28,23] |
|
Canada |
0,32 |
[35,56] |
|
Morocco |
0,21 |
[27,63] |
|
Australia |
0,14 |
[14,89] |
|
Costa Rica |
0,14 |
[25,00] |
|
Tunisia |
0,12 |
[20,34] |
|
Senegal |
0,08 |
[14,04] |
|
Saudi Arabia |
0,02 |
[10,53] |
|
Cameroon |
0,00 |
[00,00] |
|
Ghana |
0,00 |
[00,00] |
Brazil |
32,90 |
[74,10] |
|
Argentina |
24,76 |
[69,67] |
|
Spain |
6,91 |
[50,29] |
|
Belgium |
6,79 |
[35,98] |
|
Netherlands |
6,49 |
[52,13] |
|
France |
4,88 |
[30,85] |
|
Portugal |
4,65 |
[33,50] |
|
Denmark |
3,09 |
[27,64] |
|
Germany |
2,10 |
[37,84] |
|
Uruguay |
1,35 |
[26,95] |
|
Croatia |
1,28 |
[30,62] |
|
England |
1,11 |
[24,56] |
|
Switzerland |
1,05 |
[26,72] |
|
Serbia |
0,62 |
[26,27] |
|
USA |
0,45 |
[35,71] |
|
Iran |
0,30 |
[28,57] |
|
Ecuador |
0,21 |
[17,95] |
|
Qatar |
0,21 |
[27,27] |
|
Wales |
0,17 |
[26,56] |
|
Mexico |
0,16 |
[17,02] |
|
Poland |
0,14 |
[15,73] |
|
Japan |
0,12 |
[25,53] |
|
Canada |
0,07 |
[21,88] |
|
Korea Republic |
0,05 |
[14,29] |
|
Morocco |
0,05 |
[23,81] |
|
Australia |
0,04 |
[28,57] |
|
Costa Rica |
0,02 |
[14,29] |
|
Tunisia |
0,02 |
[16,67] |
|
Senegal |
0,01 |
[12,50] |
|
Saudi Arabia |
0,00 |
[00,00] |
|
Cameroon |
0,00 |
[00,00] |
|
Ghana |
0,00 |
[00,00] |
Round of 16 |
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A1-B2 (Dec 3 - Rayyan) |
8F1 |
C1-D2 (Dec 3 - Rayyan) |
8F2 |
|
Netherlands - England |
18,15 |
Argentina - Denmark |
34,69 |
|
Netherlands - Iran |
17,30 |
Argentina - France |
30,09 |
|
Netherlands - USA |
16,36 |
Argentina - Australia |
11,75 |
|
Netherlands - Wales |
15,60 |
Argentina - Tunisia |
9,26 |
|
Ecuador - England |
4,52 |
Mexico - Denmark |
2,73 |
|
Ecuador - Iran |
4,43 |
Poland - Denmark |
2,72 |
|
Ecuador - USA |
4,25 |
Poland - France |
2,58 |
|
Ecuador - Wales |
3,71 |
Mexico - France |
2,32 |
|
Qatar - England |
3,26 |
Mexico - Australia |
0,91 |
|
Qatar - Iran |
2,94 |
Poland - Australia |
0,77 |
|
D1-C2 (Dec 4 - Doha) |
8F3 |
B1-A2 (Dec 4 - Khor) |
8F4 |
|
France - Poland |
20,59 |
England - Ecuador |
15,25 |
|
France - Mexico |
20,11 |
England - Qatar |
12,44 |
|
Denmark - Mexico |
16,39 |
England - Netherlands |
9,72 |
|
Denmark - Poland |
15,88 |
Iran - Ecuador |
7,41 |
|
France - Argentina |
5,61 |
USA - Ecuador |
6,43 |
|
Denmark - Argentina |
5,10 |
England - Senegal |
6,15 |
|
France - Saudi Arabia |
4,99 |
Wales - Ecuador |
6,08 |
|
Denmark - Saudi Arabia |
4,22 |
Iran - Qatar |
5,89 |
|
Australia - Poland |
1,84 |
USA - Qatar |
5,21 |
|
Australia - Mexico |
1,55 |
Wales - Qatar |
4,65 |
|
E1-F2 (Dec 5 - Wakrah) |
8F5 |
G1-H2 (Dec 5 - Doha) |
8F6 |
|
Spain - Croatia |
20,59 |
Brazil - Uruguay |
32,33 |
|
Spain - Belgium |
15,09 |
Brazil - Portugal |
24,33 |
|
Germany - Croatia |
12,39 |
Brazil - Korea Republic |
19,24 |
|
Spain - Canada |
10,69 |
Switzerland - Uruguay |
5,19 |
|
Spain - Morocco |
9,48 |
Switzerland - Portugal |
4,09 |
|
Germany - Belgium |
8,26 |
Serbia - Uruguay |
3,58 |
|
Germany - Morocco |
5,66 |
Switzerland - Korea Republic |
3,06 |
|
Germany - Canada |
5,46 |
Serbia - Portugal |
2,99 |
|
Japan - Croatia |
3,50 |
Brazil - Ghana |
2,22 |
|
Japan - Belgium |
2,03 |
Serbia - Korea Republic |
2,21 |
|
F1-E2 (Dec 6 - Rayyan) |
8F7 |
H1-G2 (Dec 6 - Lusail) |
8F8 |
|
Belgium - Germany |
22,17 |
Portugal - Switzerland |
24,71 |
|
Belgium - Spain |
17,87 |
Portugal - Serbia |
20,02 |
|
Belgium - Japan |
11,74 |
Uruguay - Switzerland |
14,82 |
|
Croatia - Germany |
10,62 |
Uruguay - Serbia |
12,42 |
|
Croatia - Spain |
7,84 |
Portugal - Brazil |
9,26 |
|
Belgium - Costa Rica |
6,95 |
Uruguay - Brazil |
5,73 |
|
Croatia - Japan |
5,36 |
Korea Republic - Switzerland |
4,39 |
|
Croatia - Costa Rica |
3,57 |
Korea Republic - Serbia |
3,47 |
|
Canada - Germany |
2,71 |
Portugal - Cameroon |
1,71 |
|
Morocco - Germany |
2,37 |
Korea Republic - Brazil |
1,64 |
|
matchups total Round of 16 |
8F |
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Argentina - Denmark |
39,79 |
|||
Brazil - Uruguay |
38,06 |
|||
Argentina - France |
35,70 |
|||
Brazil - Portugal |
33,59 |
|||
Belgium - Spain |
32,96 |
|||
Belgium - Germany |
30,43 |
|||
Portugal - Switzerland |
28,80 |
|||
Croatia - Spain |
28,43 |
|||
England - Netherlands |
27,87 |
|||
France - Poland |
23,17 |
|||
Portugal - Serbia |
23,01 |
|||
Croatia - Germany |
23,01 |
|||
France - Mexico |
22,43 |
|||
Iran - Netherlands |
21,91 |
|||
Brazil - Korea Republic |
20,88 |
|||
Netherlands - USA |
20,73 |
|||
Switzerland - Uruguay |
20,01 |
|||
Ecuador - England |
19,77 |
|||
Netherlands - Wales |
19,15 |
|||
Denmark - Mexico |
19,12 |
|||
Quarter finals |
||||
E1/F2-G1/H2
(Dec 9 - Rayyan) |
QF1 |
A1/B2-C1/D2
(Dec 9 - Lusail) |
QF2 |
|
Spain - Brazil |
31,29 |
Netherlands - Argentina |
41,28 |
|
Germany - Brazil |
15,99 |
Ecuador - Argentina |
7,51 |
|
Croatia - Brazil |
7,48 |
England - Argentina |
7,14 |
|
Belgium - Brazil |
6,85 |
Netherlands - France |
5,77 |
|
Spain - Switzerland |
3,98 |
Netherlands - Denmark |
5,36 |
|
Spain - Portugal |
3,48 |
Qatar - Argentina |
4,37 |
|
Spain - Uruguay |
2,93 |
Iran - Argentina |
4,31 |
|
Japan - Brazil |
2,76 |
USA - Argentina |
3,77 |
|
Spain - Serbia |
2,57 |
Wales - Argentina |
3,41 |
|
Germany - Switzerland |
1,96 |
Netherlands - Poland |
1,50 |
|
F1/E2-H1/G2
(Dec 10 - Doha) |
QF3 |
B1/A2-D1/C2
(Dec 10 - Khor) |
QF4 |
|
Belgium - Portugal |
16,30 |
England - France |
11,49 |
|
Belgium - Uruguay |
8,88 |
England - Denmark |
9,59 |
|
Belgium - Switzerland |
6,48 |
Netherlands - France |
6,79 |
|
Croatia - Portugal |
6,07 |
Iran - France |
5,03 |
|
Belgium - Brazil |
5,68 |
Ecuador - France |
4,86 |
|
Spain - Portugal |
5,65 |
Netherlands - Denmark |
4,72 |
|
Germany - Portugal |
5,35 |
USA - France |
4,26 |
|
Belgium - Serbia |
4,60 |
Ecuador - Denmark |
3,89 |
|
Spain - Uruguay |
3,11 |
Iran - Denmark |
3,75 |
|
Croatia - Uruguay |
3,04 |
Wales - France |
3,63 |
|
matchups total quarter finals |
QF |
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Argentina - Netherlands |
42,52 |
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Brazil - Spain |
33,29 |
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Brazil - Germany |
17,88 |
|||
Belgium - Portugal |
17,00 |
|||
France - Netherlands |
12,56 |
|||
Belgium - Brazil |
12,53 |
|||
England - France |
12,33 |
|||
Denmark - England |
10,51 |
|||
Denmark - Netherlands |
10,08 |
|||
Belgium - Uruguay |
9,65 |
|||
Argentina - England |
9,57 |
|||
Brazil - Croatia |
9,43 |
|||
Portugal - Spain |
9,13 |
|||
Argentina - Ecuador |
8,45 |
|||
Belgium - Switzerland |
7,44 |
|||
Germany - Portugal |
6,92 |
|||
Croatia - Portugal |
6,91 |
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Spain - Switzerland |
6,36 |
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Spain - Uruguay |
6,04 |
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Ecuador - France |
6,00 |
|||
Semi finals |
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A1/B2-C1/D2
- E1/F2-G1/H2 (Dec 13 - Lusail) |
SF1 |
B1/A2-D1/C2
- F1/E2-H1/G2 (Dec 14 - Khor) |
SF2 |
|
Argentina - Brazil |
31,78 |
France - Belgium |
8,09 |
|
Netherlands - Brazil |
12,23 |
France - Portugal |
5,95 |
|
Argentina - Spain |
9,72 |
Denmark - Belgium |
5,90 |
|
Netherlands - Spain |
4,52 |
Denmark - Portugal |
4,85 |
|
Argentina - Germany |
4,07 |
England - Belgium |
2,99 |
|
Denmark - Brazil |
2,61 |
France - Brazil |
2,72 |
|
France - Brazil |
2,60 |
France - Uruguay |
2,70 |
|
Argentina - Switzerland |
2,31 |
France - Spain |
2,64 |
|
Argentina - Portugal |
1,99 |
England - Portugal |
2,46 |
|
Argentina - Belgium |
1,95 |
Denmark - Brazil |
2,32 |
|
matchups total semi finals |
SF |
|||
Argentina - Brazil |
32,52 |
|||
Brazil - Netherlands |
12,86 |
|||
Argentina - Spain |
10,30 |
|||
Belgium - France |
8,26 |
|||
France - Portugal |
6,09 |
|||
Belgium - Denmark |
6,07 |
|||
Brazil - France |
5,32 |
|||
Netherlands - Spain |
5,19 |
|||
Denmark - Portugal |
4,99 |
|||
Brazil - Denmark |
4,93 |
|||
Argentina - Germany |
4,41 |
|||
Argentina - Belgium |
3,59 |
|||
France - Spain |
3,51 |
|||
Argentina - Portugal |
3,31 |
|||
Belgium - England |
3,06 |
|||
France - Uruguay |
2,84 |
|||
Argentina - Switzerland |
2,74 |
|||
Denmark - Spain |
2,70 |
|||
England - Portugal |
2,57 |
|||
Belgium - Netherlands |
2,47 |
|||
3rd place Play-off |
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3rd place
play-off (Dec 17 - Rayyan) |
||||
Argentina - France |
4,60 |
|||
Argentina - Denmark |
3,47 |
|||
Brazil - France |
2,85 |
|||
Argentina - England |
2,13 |
|||
Brazil - Denmark |
2,12 |
|||
France - Netherlands |
2,08 |
|||
Argentina - Belgium |
2,03 |
|||
Argentina - Portugal |
2,03 |
|||
Belgium - Brazil |
1,93 |
|||
Denmark - Netherlands |
1,87 |
|||
Final |
||||
final (Dec 18 - Lusail) |
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Belgium - Brazil |
7,23 |
|||
Brazil - France |
5,81 |
|||
Argentina - Belgium |
5,65 |
|||
Argentina - Brazil |
5,24 |
|||
Brazil - Portugal |
5,19 |
|||
Argentina - France |
4,85 |
|||
Argentina - Portugal |
4,26 |
|||
Brazil - Denmark |
3,87 |
|||
Argentina - Denmark |
3,30 |
|||
Brazil - Spain |
3,24 |
|||
Brazil - Netherlands |
2,27 |
|||
Argentina - Spain |
2,24 |
|||
Brazil - Uruguay |
1,77 |
|||
Brazil - Switzerland |
1,74 |
|||
Argentina - Netherlands |
1,73 |
|||
Brazil - England |
1,62 |
|||
Belgium - Netherlands |
1,60 |
|||
Belgium - Spain |
1,58 |
|||
Brazil - Croatia |
1,46 |
|||
Brazil - Germany |
1,32 |
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Nice job, thank you. I'm just really puzzled and curious about what happened to Senegal here? African Champions, really solid squad, long term coach, decent results. So why are they predicted to botton the group with Qatar and Ecuador?
ReplyDeleteWell, these simulations do not take into account anything you said :) It's not about titles won, the squad on the pitch or recent form but in essence it all comes down to elo-ratings differences of the opponents before each group match determining the elo win expectancy of each match. And that's the only number with which this simulation works.
ReplyDeleteOf course the elo rating of a team reflects it's results in all kind of matches. In fact of all matches the team has ever played.
On one hand it leaves those factors you mentioned (which are sometimes subjective and anyway hard to find before the match actually starts) out of consideration. On the other hand it supplies a fairly simple, mathematical method that still uses randomness each simulation, so you get all kinds of simulated results. You can see that in the fact that it's not the current elo-ranking I'm presenting for the WC-winner list.
Current elo-ratings for the teams in group A are: Netherlands 2040, Ecuador 1840, Senegal 1687, Qatar 1650. Qatar as home playing team has an extra 100 points home field advantage added to their rating. That makes them a bit stronger (in elo-terms) than Senegal already, 1750 versus 1687.
Static elo win expectancies before each of Senegal's group matches are:
SEN-NED: 0,11 which corresponds with 10% win for SEN, 18% draw and 72% loss
QAT-SEN: 0,59 which corresponds with 29% win for SEN, 27% draw and 44% loss
ECU-SEN: 0,71 which corresponds with 22% win for SEN, 25% draw and 53% loss
QAT-ECU: 0,37 which corresponds with 30% win for QAT, 26% draw and 44% loss
NED-QAT: 0,16 which corresponds with 14% win for QAT, 20% draw and 66% loss
So after 10000 simulations applying these kind of probability distributions, it will result in the group results presented above.
If you want to read more about the used simulation methods and statistical background, please take a look here
Thanks so much for the explanation! Of course I was aware that simulation cannot take into account subjective things like "Sadio Mane is rad", but I found it interesting, that any other result from this simulation looks very probable, but - at least to me - Senegal stands out here big time. But all in all - this looks like a very good model.
DeleteI agree. I think Senegal is much more dangerous for the Dutch than Qatar.
DeleteThanks for the kind words !
Thanks again for all the work, I am an Iranian-Canadian, and lucky enough, both of my teams are playing @ Doha WC2022. I guess now I will double my money on my bettings with the equations I just went through. Seems very solid.
DeleteCan You also take it to the next level and predict Iran- England or even Iran-USA match?
Sorry if I am looking at Your hard work as financial.
This is a great explanation Ed! In my own modeling I found the same surprising result, which led me to looking into Senegal's match history, and really they have struggled to consistently beat African opponents through qualifying, AFCON group stage, etc. Sure elo has *some* regionalization problems which may lower CAF teams ratings in general, but if you are a team that couldn't find wins against Malawi and Guinea in a major tournament, there are going to be questions. Hopefully when the bright lights are on Senegal shows out!!!
DeleteElo indeed has a regional problem - since there are not many matches between teams from different confederations, it takes a long time for ELO to adjust to the actual average per confederation.
DeleteIf the difference are getting smaller (which is something worth testing), it means that Elo will indeed under-estimate CAF
Another contributing factor specifically in the case of Senegal is their performance at the COSAFA Cup in July. Here, they drew Eswatini 1-1 (advancing on penalties), lost to Zambia 4-3, and again drew Mozambique 1-1 (winning on penalties). For these they were severely punished in the Elo rankings, losing 67 ratings points.
DeleteNow, these results are somewhat embarassing, but are mostly a results of Senegal not bringing most of their first-team players to this minor tournament. A reasonable human pundit would be quick to dismiss these results. However, the Elo ratings don't "know" that it wasn't the first team that performed poorly, and therefore Senegal's rating is much lower than it probably should be.
Btw, very valid points, dopeisland and NM, that you make here about the elo rating. But I have to work with the best ranking/rating system that's currently available, and that's still the elo ranking, even with all it's known drawbacks.
DeleteAlthough I can't think of any good reason why someone should bet, here are the (rounded) win/draw/loss probabilities for the group matches of Iran and Canada:
ReplyDeleteENG-IRN: We = 0,647. W/D/L probabilities for ENG: 50% - 25% - 25%
WAL-IRN: We = 0,490. W/D/L probabilities for WAL: 36% - 26% - 38%
IRN-USA: We = 0,523. W/D/L probabilities for IRN: 38% - 26% - 35%
BEL-CAN: We = 0,813. W/D/L probabilities for BEL: 70% - 18% - 12%
CRO-CAN: We = 0,742. W/D/L probabilities for CRO: 61% - 22% - 18%
CAN-MAR: We = 0,526. W/D/L probabilities for CAN: 39% - 26% - 35%
Although I agree with most of what you mentioned in the introduction about Qatar and the Qatari team, I don’t see your point why not having the World Cup in a Muslim country. Part of your speech is an obvious hate speech and stereotype about Islam. If you mean by freedom the LGBT matter, then Islam and all religions is against that because it’s against the normal human nature. Other things like labor force rights has nothing to do with Islam. So please don’t mix. And I hope you review your introduction again.
ReplyDeleteI think Ed was actually pretty straightforward in his presentation of Qatar, it is, in fact, a Muslim emirate and has laws that are considered very socially regressive by the standard of the majority of the world. I hope you reconsider your comment that any LGBT+ folks are "against the normal human nature," as well. This blog is a place to discuss football rankings, models, prognostications, etc, and I assume Ed wouldn't want this to turn into a cultural sounding board, but it is uncontroversial that the majority of the world see Qatar as a place unfit in 2022 to be the center of the footballing world.
DeleteI don't hate. I only have great difficulty with a country that puts the death penalty on homosexuality, because it's not 'normal human nature'.
ReplyDeletePlease be comforted, I have great difficulty with almost all religions because almost every religion thinks they can dictate what's normal and what's not :)
There is something very crooked here! The majority of the world has standards that you want to impose on Qatar (a "minority"), and the minority of the world is LBGT and you want to recognize them. So which is it???
ReplyDeleteI don't want to 'impose' anything on anyone or any country. That's the freedom that everybody has to live their own life. I am not trying to impose my rules and thoughts on others by force. I only express my opinion here. I just hope that somebody reads it and thinks "what if I was a homosexual, would I agree with being killed because I love another human being?".
ReplyDeleteBut boy, am I glad I live in a country where I don't get prosecuted for the blog-post or the opinion I wrote.
Ed- do you plan to enter your model predictions into the futbolmetrix model competition for the world cup? (The Sophisticated Prediction contest)
ReplyDeleteNice suggestion, dopeisland (or should I say Alex ?). I've submitted the NT-ELO predictions.
ReplyDeleteHaha either one of course. I'm excited to see the outcome of some of these models. I added a small market-value correction to mine (elo correction) to see how it does. Admittedly with no testing of that against previous world cups...
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